Curse

Cebe · Jun 14, 2007, 07:46 AM // 07:46

I've never been really happy with any Dervish build I've created and my Dervish has always seemed inferior to all of m other characters. However, last night I was playing arounf with some skills and camy up with this:

Points of note:
1. Yes, I only have 13 Scythe Mastery...get over it!

I have one vabbian headpiece (for Mysticism) and I cba to go buy another one atm.
2. Weapon of choice would be a Vampiric scythe of Enchanting.
3. Lyssa's Assault seems to be a nice 'free' attack skill, which can be used more often with Onslaught.
4. PvE BUILD

And so now on to the questions:

What's the GW Community's view on [wiki]Onslaught[/wiki]? Good skill / bad skill? From what I've seen I quite like it.
In terms of survival in battle, I don't know how this would fare as I've only tested it damage-wise on the Isle of the Nameless. Anyone have any ideas on improvements which can be made in that respect?
Would anyone use any other attack skills than the ones listed?
Has anyone tried a similar build in battle...how did it fare?

Thanks for any constructive PvE related comments.

The Defiled Knight · Jun 14, 2007, 08:00 AM // 08:00

Interesting build ok my first point is... Wind prayers are not terribly good when fighting i'd say they're more for running builds personally I do use wind prayers alot but alot of people wont agree with your high use of them. Secondly I don't think you would last too long Faithfull intervention wont keep you alive for too long. Third of all is yo ur damage output is great nothing wrong with that the combination of Onslought and Heart of fury is great and using Lyssas assault belts out alot of damage expecially when used as often as you will be able to with that great Onslought combination.

Advice... Don't use chilling it may help to use it in PvE but it's also a wasted spot in my opinion this could be replaced with something to assist Faithfull Intervention to keep you alive longer.

I don't mind this build just a couple of tweaks and it will be a very good build i'll have a try of it on my dervish and see what I can do with it.

Cebe · Jun 14, 2007, 08:12 AM // 08:12

Well I did wonder if Faithful Intervention is worth it...you're right, it doesn't do much to keep you alive if monsters decide you're going to die but then again the alternative is it's sister skill...umm...Watchful Intervention or something? It's not much better and annoying that it has to be reapplied. Reason I like Faithful is because I can put it on at the start and not think about it...and it'll be there powering Mystic Sweep.

I know Wind Prayers doesn't do much to keep you alive...but I wanted to work the build around Onslaught, since I've taken a liking to that skill...Maybe I could look into Dwayna's Touch or Pious Restoration with a strippable enchantment and do away with Flesh of my Flesh...

If you're suggesting replacing CHilling Victory with a non-attack skill wont my damage output be compromised?

The Defiled Knight · Jun 14, 2007, 08:25 AM // 08:25

By removing chilling you wont be doing less damage really because your going to be constantly spamming Lyssas Assault which will do alot of damage, Possibly take Victorious Sweep that will help you gain health and still do damage, you can take Faithfull and Watchfull intervention because if faithfull fails then you can quickly put on watchfull which will give you enough health then to reaply faithfull intervention and then you'll be back at full health.

It's your choice really but I think the best you can do short of adding earth prayers into the build is replace chilling victory with eiter Watchfull intervention or Victorious sweep.

Cebe · Jun 14, 2007, 08:33 AM // 08:33

The victorious sweep option is interesting, I'd forgotten about that skill.

I could always take Watchful too and just not take a res!

God Apprentice · Jun 14, 2007, 08:37 AM // 08:37

[skill]Onslaught[/skill] I like Onslaught, I use it on a PvP sin build.

You might like Natural Healing or Dwaynas Touch, though with Natural if you under an enchant you will lose 5 energy.

The Defiled Knight · Jun 14, 2007, 08:46 AM // 08:46

For PvE don't take the res take Victorious and Watchfull but.... if you do use this build in PvP take Victorious.

There you go problem solved

~ Dan ~ · Jun 14, 2007, 10:45 AM // 10:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Defiled Knight

By removing chilling you wont be doing less damage really

.... but you think having watchful AND faithful will give the same dmg output?

anyways, in my onslaught build i use eremites + mystic sweep + victorious - the 3 most spammable attack skills. i'd recommend them over chilling and lyssa's... yes onslaught makes them a tad cheaper and a bit faster recharge, but they still aren't "spammable" and the pressure won't keep up.

The Defiled Knight · Jun 14, 2007, 10:51 AM // 10:51

Yeah that is true I was playing around with the first build and made it an Earth Prayer, Wind Prayer and Scythe Mastery build it worked fairly well but it didn't have heart of fury which defeated the purpose of having the increased attack speed but i'm still playing around with it.

Perfected Shadow · Jun 14, 2007, 01:08 PM // 13:08

[skill=text]Mystic Vigor[/skill], can replace Harrier's Haste since monsters don't really move around that much or do they?

[skill=text]Wearying Strike[/skill], can replace Chilling Victory if you don't mind waiting a few seconds for the hench to remove weakness from you. Otherwise Victorious Sweep is a good alternative.

Nikki Moonlight · Jun 14, 2007, 02:15 PM // 14:15

I'd swap harriers haste for Dwaynas touch, since its PvE and they rarely kite.

Cebe · Jun 14, 2007, 02:58 PM // 14:58

Point taken about Harrier's Haste - but I was enjoying the speed boost. I'll try out Dwayna's Touch and try it out in real PvE (that is, not just the Battle Isles) to test survivability later on.

~ Dan ~ · Jun 14, 2007, 08:48 PM // 20:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver

Point taken about Harrier's Haste - but I was enjoying the speed boost.

if you really want a speed boost, use whirling charge, as you've invested in wind prayers. toggle that and heart of fury, and you have increased ias all the time.

ArKaiN · Jun 15, 2007, 04:05 AM // 04:05

Wind is just not a very good line, and Onslaught isn't worth it unless you're using(and spamming) Eremite's Attack+Mystic Sweep. That way you don't need to waste more space with IAS, btw.

Coloneh · Jun 15, 2007, 06:38 AM // 06:38

changes from me:
[skill]Mystic Sweep[/skill]
[skill]Eremite's Attack[/skill]
[skill]Victorious Sweep[/skill]or[skill]Crippling Sweep[/skill]or[skill]Banishing Strike[/skill]
[skill]Dwayna's Touch[/skill]
[skill]Mystic Vigor[/skill]
[skill]Onslaught[/skill]
[skill]Watchful Intervention[/skill]
[skill]Death Pact Signet[/skill]

I like it.
attack skills = basically a more effective IAS with a DPS increase
big/cheap heal
constant heal
Watchful triggers when you need it, not at 50%
Death pact signet is so fast, and 2 minutes is almost nothing

Great_Harvester · Jun 19, 2007, 02:20 AM // 02:20

"What's the GW Community's view on Onslaught Onslaught"

Personally, I found onslaught weak compared to other dervish elites. For example, Zealous vow will let you continuously spam any number of dervish attack skills so long as they are 5e. It's certainly usable though.

"In terms of survival in battle, I don't know how this would fare as I've only tested it damage-wise on the Isle of the Nameless. Anyone have any ideas on improvements which can be made in that respect?"

In general, wind prayers doesn't have the outright durability of earth prayers, but some great skills are natural healing and dwayna's touch, as the previous posters have said. For PvE, I haven't found onslaught to be a very effective skill. I like Zealous Vow (assuming you want to stay in wind prayers) because it guaranteed keeps you from running out of steam in the middle of a fight (you can even use it to recharge your energy bar for spells, not just to spam attack skills).

"Would anyone use any other attack skills than the ones listed?
Has anyone tried a similar build in battle...how did it fare?"

Personally, I would not use mystic sweep with wind prayers because the line has so few synergistic enchantments that you would want on you, most of the time you will end up with a weak attack bonus. I would replace mystic sweep with victorious sweep.